Teil II:
"Floyd Mayweather Senior: 'Pacquiao’s one of the biggest fagg*ts on the planet'
This week’s 82nd edition of On the Ropes Boxing Radio featured an exclusive interview with boxing trainer Floyd Mayweather Senior whose son, Floyd Junior, is widely viewed as one of the most talented fighters in boxing today. The fight that every boxing fan wants to see is a showdown between Floyd Junior and Filipino sensation Manny Pacquiao. Pacquiao’s promoter Bob Arum recently imposed a deadline for exclusive negations on Team Mayweather. The deadline came and passed and garnered a lot of media attention. Floyd Senior spoke to us about Arum’s deadline and the prospects of this fight coming to fruition. He also talked about other aspects of the current boxing landscape. Here is a complete transcript of what Floyd Mayweather Senior had to say to me and the show’s Hostess, Jenna J:
JENNA J: Alright everyone, it's time for our second guest of this week’s episode and he is now making his fifth appearance on our show. He is none other than Floyd Mayweather Senior. Hey there, Floyd.
FLOYD MAYWEATHER SR: How are you doing?
JENNA: I’m doing fine. We’re happy to be talking to you. Floyd, I’m sure you know, Bob Arum has come out in the press and he put a deadline on Manny Pacquiao versus Floyd Mayweather Junior. He said the deadline passed. What are your thoughts on the whole contract situation trying to make that fight happen?
MAYWEATHER: My problem is, Bob Arum don’t call no f*cking shots. Bob Arum don’t call the shots. The fight can be made anytime they want the fight to be made. Little Floyd definitely ain’t scared of no Pacquiao. That’s the last thing in the world that little Floyd is scared of, a little Filipino midget. Definitely that’s not the case.
JENNA: Now he said in the transcript after the deadline passed that he never directly spoke to the Mayweather camp, that he only spoke through Ross Greenberg of HBO and he spoke to Al Haymon. Do you think there was ever any real agreement in place?
MAYWEATHER: I definitely don’t think so. I don’t think so, not at all. My thing is, I think what this thing comes down to be is that my son don’t want to be paid like Pacquiao. He’s the big draw, not Pacquiao. He drew more numbers than Pacquiao and he wants to get paid like he’s supposed to be, not no 50-50. He wants to get paid like he’s supposed to get paid and I don’t blame him. I would be the same way. If you draw way more people how in the world can they be paid the same? I’m pretty sure that’s what the whole deal is right there. Pacquiao claims he wants half but it don’t go that way. He’s not the best fighter, anyway. He knows he ain’t the best fighter and Bob Arum knows he ain’t the best fighter, too. So why should you belittle yourself and take less money than you’re supposed to?
JENNA: When Bob Arum was asked about the drug testing, he said, “I think the drug issue was resolved, I don’t want to go into further details”. Do you think that it was all the way solved? It wasn’t just a fourteen day deadline? Or do you think it was basically what the terms were last time?
MAYWEATHER: If it was me, I’m going to say about the whole situation. If it was me about the fourteen day thing, there shouldn’t even be a fourteen day thing. It should be a random thing. That’s what it should be. It should be random. I’m saying that I don’t know what Bob Arum’s got to say about this and how he’s calling on the shots. I don’t know how all that’s going down but I’m just telling you it should be a random thing because that way, there is all kind of ways people could do things. So I would do a random test that way you can get tested anytime, even the day of the fight. That’s what it should be and that little pint of blood ain’t going to hurt nobody.
JENNA: Do you think that Bob Arum is coming out in the press this way with the deadlines and everything else to try and make Floyd look bad?
MAYWEATHER: Of course. Yes he’s trying to make little Floyd like bad but people already know what time of day it is. Of course he’s trying to make little Floyd look bad because he’s with Pacquiao. When he was with my son he was trying to make him look good and everybody else look bad. He was with my son then but he ain’t with my son any more. My son left him and De La Hoya left him. That’s just the way it is.
JENNA: Alright now, do you think your son will be fighting in 2010 or do you think he’ll wait until 2011 to return?
MAYWEATHER: I ain’t going to say that he won’t fight in 2010. He could fight in 2010 but then again he might not. I’m pretty sure he could fight somebody like, well I can’t even say. I just have to say that I believe he can have a fight but it won’t be a big, big fight like Manny Pacquiao. I just think that whenever they’re ready little Floyd’s ready, believe me.
JENNA: Well Floyd, we’re also joined by my co-host Geoff Ciani. Geoff?
GEOFFREY CIANI: Hi Floyd. It’s a pleasure to speak with you again.
MAYWEATHER: Why thank you.
CIANI: Thank you for coming back on. The question that I wanted to ask you Floyd is they’re talking about a couple of other opponents for Pacquiao if he does not fight your son.
MAYWEATHER: You’re talking about Cotto again and talking about Margarito.
CIANI: Yeah, yeah. I was wondering, starting off with Cotto.
MAYWEATHER: That’s just a bunch of BS, man. Let me tell you this right here, all this right here is to try to get little Floyd upset or whatever it is, but it’s stupid anyway. First of all, being real man, what little man—you see how big Margarito is, don’t you?
CIANI: Yes.
MAYWEATHER: Alright, then. Even though he ain’t got skills how do you think, to be honest, that Pacquiao would beat him on the up and up? He can’t. He couldn’t. He couldn’t beat him on the up and up.
CIANI: Now what do you think, going back to Cotto for a minute Pacquiao already beat Cotto.
MAYWEATHER: Why is he going to fight Cotto again? Why? All this is, is just a game. If you see what the whole thing is, Bob Arum is giving Cotto a title and then turning around and letting Pacman beat Cotto up again and take it again. That’s all it is. That’s all it is. It’s so plain to see a blind man can see that.
CIANI: So you don’t give Cotto any chance in a rematch with Pacquiao?
MAYWEATHER: No. No, it’s all going to be in Cotto’s head how he took a savage beating. That’s the kind of beating that he took. In my honest belief, on the up and up when everybody’s straight Cotto beats him, and beats him easy. Margarito beats him, too, easy. It’s so easy that both of them would probably knock him out. But with the situation like it is, hey what can you say?
CIANI: Now I’m curious Floyd, what do you think about Cotto pairing up with Emanuel Steward?
MAYWEATHER: I don’t care if he’s with Emanuel Steward or whatever Steward he’s with. I’m just saying, there’s nothing wrong with Emanuel trying to make his money. There’s nothing wrong with Cotto if that’s the guy he believes in. Hey, that’s okay but that ain’t going to make him win though. Unless Emanuel Steward gets smart and gets down to some business and find out what’s really going on.
JENNA: Now Floyd, with all of the negotiations that have happened in the past with Mayweather and Pacquiao and the problems that they seem to be running into now, do you think a deal for them to fight will ever happen?
MAYWEATHER: Well you know, you can’t say that it won’t ever happen, but I’m really telling you right now I don’t believe it’s going to be this year. I don’t believe it’s going to be this year. I will tell you that. It’s just a thing where nobody’s going to go on nobody’s terms. Little Floyd is the biggest fighter out there right now. He ain’t got to go under nobody’s terms. He ain’t got to go under Bob Arum’s terms. He ain’t got to go by nobody’s terms. He’s his own man. I’m pretty sure if Pacquiao fights these guys and beats them like he’s supposed to, I’m pretty sure that fight will go on if Pacquiao’s still around. If Pacquiao’s still around because I’m just saying all that stuff about the Congressman and all of that stuff. It’s a bunch of BS man. Who cares about that, man? To be a Congressman over millions and millions of dollars?—Please! That’s all I’m trying to say. It ain’t nothing but a mess, man.
JENNA: Well let’s talk about your son for a minute and what could be next for him. If it’s not Pacquiao and if Junior still fights this year who would you like to see him against? Would you like to see him in there with somebody like Bradley or Cotto?
MAYWEATHER: First of all, let me tell you something. I’m going to be honest with you. I was looking at Bradley last night and believe me I’m telling you what I see and what I know. Bradley is a good fighter and I give him the utmost respect for the weight class that he’s in and I don’t believe he would whop little Floyd even if little Floyd was in that class. I’m just telling you that what I had seen last night, it’s ridiculous. As a matter of fact I’ll really be honest with you. I went to sleep during the fight. That’s how boring the fight was to me. But I’m just telling you I liked Bradley as a fighter from the fights that I’d seen before. Last night when he fought, that guy was in a picking fight for him where he could do what he wanted to do but I went to sleep during the fight. I’m going to be honest with you about that. He didn’t look good to me at all. He was awful wild and looping punches and telegraphing punches. You could see the punches coming when he was getting ready to start. He was loading the punches up, you know what I mean. I’m just saying that that’s a fight right there that would be a merciful fight I believe for Bradley. I sort of gave Bradley, out of all the fighters that I have seen I thought maybe at one time that Bradley might at least put up a good fight or something man. I don’t think so, not at all. He’s not going to hit my son with none of that stuff, that big wide looping stuff. No. He’d get beat to death. That don’t mean that I don’t have no respect for him but I’m not going to respect him in the weight class he’s going into now.
JENNA: You’re obviously Floyd’s father. Who out there do you see as a fight that you’d like to see your son with? Who do you think is a good match-up for him that would draw some interest?
MAYWEATHER: Well you know what? I’m going to be honest whether the fight goes on or not. I’m going to tell you who I really want to see him whop because he’s been running his damn mouth so much to just shut his ass up once and for all. Maybe he might not. I want to see Floyd whop Margarito’s ass because all you hear is him talk, talk, talk, talk to everybody, blah, blah, wah, wah. Floyd’s scared of Margarito. Yeah, Floyd’s scared of Margarito. Guess what? Shane beat the dog sh*t out of Margarito and knocked his ass out and Floyd beat the sh*t out of Shane. He ain’t even got to fight Margarito to tell you the truth. That lets you know right there where Margarito’s out from what he did with Shane, and it wasn’t too long ago when he beat the hell out of Margarito.
JENNA: So you’d actually like to see your son face Margarito to shut his mouth up for all his comments?
MAYWEATHER: Well he really ain’t got to beat Margarito. Shane already beat Margarito and he beat Shane like a baby and Shane beat Margarito like a baby so there ain’t nothing to prove no more to be honest. I think that’s already solved. That’s already solved, but he’s just a big slow Mexican with no finesse.
JENNA: Do you think Margarito even deserves a big fight after getting caught?
MAYWEATHER: He don’t need no fight, no he don’t need another fight like that. That’s what I’m trying to tell you right now about all of this stuff. Guys that do stuff like that, they should be banned from boxing, period. Guys that take supplements, enhancement drugs, steroids, whatever that stuff is, look at here—they should be banned, period. All these people want to say oh, how good he is and how good he is. Once again, this is what happened with Shane. Let me tell you what happened with Shane. Shane probably whopped Margarito’s ass with the sh*t in him, with the stuff inside. But I ain’t going to say that he did, it could have been. I’m just saying whatever it is, if he did do it he did no more than Margarito did when he beat up Cotto. So both of them are underhanded kind of fighters so whatever happens to either one of them it’s all good. It’s all good. But I know one thing, little Floyd had Shane take the test and guess what? You seen what happened, nobody got to tell you.
CIANI: Now Floyd, changing things up a tiny bit to a different topic in boxing. I’m curious, one of the fighters you used to work with is now considered by many to be right on the threshold of the top ten pound for pound and that’s Chad Dawson. I’m wondering what you think of Dawson as a fighter right now?
MAYWEATHER: Well of course you know when he was with me, hey you’ve seen what he did. He’s still fighting and he’s still winning. You saw when he was with me. You saw how he looked. I really have no comments on it. You all see what you see. All you got to do is go back, get the two CD’s that he had when he fought with me both times and then get the CD’s when he fights now and tell me what you see.
CIANI: How do you think Chad will do in his upcoming fight against Jean Pascal next month?
MAYWEATHER: I really don’t know that guy. I really don’t know that much about that guy. I don’t know nothing about him. If I knew something about him I could call it or something. I don’t know nothing about that guy at all. So what is it to that guy? Is that guy a puncher? Or what is he? Do you know?
CIANI: He’s a bit of a boxer/puncher I would say.
MAYWEATHER: Okay. He’s a bit of a boxer/puncher, okay. Well my thing is that if he does like he’s been doing he may cause problems. I’m thinking about when he fought Glen Johnson the first time. That was a life and death fight. I just thought that that guy’s old enough to be his Daddy. I just don’t see why Chad had problems with him at all.
CIANI: Chad beat Tomasz Adamek who has since gone on to heavyweight and had some success there. I’m wondering because he’s a smaller guy, he’s coming up from light heavyweight and cruiserweight.
MAYWEATHER: What did you say was the guy’s name? What’s the guy’s name?
CIANI: Tomasz Adamek.
MAYWEATHER: Look here, man. Look here. I’m the one that trained Chad Dawson when he beat Adamek. I made Chad Dawson champion that night. I trained him. You didn’t know that?
CIANI: No, I knew that. I knew that. I wanted to ask you what you thought of the heavyweight division and what you thought about the fact that Adamek has had so much success at heavyweight so far?
MAYWEATHER: I think the heavyweight division is a bunch of garbage now. Anytime a guy like that can go up and beat anybody. Hey. The heavyweight division is weak, real weak. But Adamek ain’t no hell of a fighter to me. He might be a good fighter but he ain’t no hell of a fighter. I think he went up to cruiserweight. They fought at light heavyweight but he went up to cruiserweight and then heavyweight and he’s beating these guys, man. Hey, heavyweight is bad. That’s all I can tell you. It’s not good. It’s bad.
CIANI: What’s your opinion of the two guys that are widely considered the best right now, the two Klitschko brothers?
MAYWEATHER: Them guys, I don’t really want to get in too deep on them either, because I’m not going to say what’s what and what ain’t what. But my understanding is they’re doing their little thing too when it comes to things like—you know. You know what I mean. Those guys right there to me, I don’t think even as small as Ali was back then, I’m going to be honest. I think somebody like Ali, I mean we’re in a different era right now don’t get me wrong. We ain’t got nobody in the era to beat them guys right now and those guys, they don’t want to be tested for nothing. I mean that’s what I hear. I don’t know, but I heard them guys don’t want to be tested for nothing. But even back then, even a guy as small as Ali who was 215, 212, or whatever. He would have killed a guy like that, man. He would run circles around him and beat him half to death. It would have been no different than when he fought Ernie Terrell. When Ali beat Ernie Terrell, it wouldn’t be no different. It would be a great big old building come tumbling down. It’s the same thing.
JENNA: Now Floyd, taking things back to your son and his potential fight with Pacquiao. If you could speak to Pacquiao right now face to face what would you say to him?
MAYWEATHER: I’d tell him he’s a fagg*t. You know what I’d tell him. Go stick your head up under your dress. That’s what I would tell him. I’m being real with you. I’d tell him he ain’t nothing but a sissy and a little girl. They got, as a matter of fact I’ve seen a thing in one of these books. Hold on just a second. Hey Lloyd! Where’s that book at about all of those athletes? That book about all of the athletes? You know the one, it had Pacquiao in there and Kobe in there? Well you know what, I’ll tell you just like the book says it. Hold on one second here. Here it is right here, here’s the book. It has nothing to do with no sissy. Just hold on just a second. I got something right here. I’m trying to find something right here. This is exactly what I would tell him. It’s in this book here. It’s “The Twenty Biggest Bitches in the Sport”. That’s what it says, “The Twenty Biggest Bitches in the Sport”. Guess who’s right here? Manny Pacquiao. It says “Biggest Bitches in the Sport” and that’s what he is, a bitch.
JENNA: So basically you’re questioning his manhood a little bit for not immediately taking a match with Floyd Mayweather Junior?
MAYWEATHER: Let me tell you something. What I’m saying here is not so much about that. Yeah, it would be that because of all these other guys. He ain’t got no problem with fighting all the big guys—De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton, the other African guy, the other guy who he fought with the title. I’m just saying he beat these guys, Cotto, he beat all these guys like they’re nothing. Pacquiao’s one of the biggest fagg*ts on the planet.
JENNA: So you think he’s afraid to fight your son?
